It caters for all dogs and is not specific for seniors
There are different thoughts on this - some believe in life stage food to meet what is supposed to be different nutritional needs and others feel it is unnecessary. I am not sure, but I think that the analysis of Gentle, being mid range makes it suitable for all life stages. However, it is their opinion and I respect that. Like so much to do with dog food, at the end of the day it is down to individual choice.
The feeding guide was I think they thought "too vague"
I've not found that to be the case simply because I have never come across a feeding guide that was anywhere near accurate anyway. On the contrary, I find it easy to work out and the website does say that you need to move it up or down depending on the dog's needs. That seems sensible.
The idea that the analysis was not dry matter.
Earlier I mentioned this and suggested that you take the dry matter analysis from the Dog Food Directory of this website - it is provided graphically in the form of the dials.
Overall they said it was not good quality and they could not "put their name to it".
The review on this website does not tally with theirs so you just have to read up and form your own opinion.
On the subject of Royal Canin, it seems to take a lot of flak but tbh I have fed their products in the past and I don’t remember having any problems with it. I have posted on the thread here about veterinary advice. All I can say is that this is their opinion so you have to do the homework and make that decision yourself.
One thing I have learned over the many years of dog ownership is that there are many different views and ways of feeding our furry friends. No one thing is right and that is why I am always wary of people who are dogmatic (no pun intended) on the subject. If you feel that this product might be helpful then yes, have a chat with Beate Rothon about it and see what she thinks. You can but try it and monitor your dog’s condition. I would be interested in hearing the outcome and following your dog’s progress.
What is the difference between a senior (or puppy) food and a typical adult food… Protein levels.
Adult food is often about 25%, puppy or senior is pushed up to 32% (for growth in puppies, and to minimise muscle wastage plus to compensate for reduced digestive take up in seniors).
So if a food is 32% or over in protein already then why would you need a separate senior or puppy variety?
I don’t think this brand has been mentioned on the forum before although I may be wrong. However to update the cold pressed topic. Pure Dog cold pressed grain free Chicken,Trout and Potato. Pure Dog also do a range of low temperature in-can cooking process wet foods. www.puredog.co.uk/
Good find Seaweed - thank you. A most unusual product as it contains wild boar meat. Also it is grain free, the carb source being sweet potato (no white potato). This is significantly different to some of the other cold pressed products which tend to have brown rice in them. I’d like to know more about it - who makes it and where it is manufactured. Would also like to see the review on here - will put it on the Facebook page as David might see it there and put it in the computer.
Dottie, the only added info I can give is Francken Food bvba (Belgium) is a wholesaler of dog food and producer of Healthy Dog. This was taken from a web page translation.
David has picked up my message on Facebook and will try to get it added to the Dog Food Directory. The website does not display the correct nutritional information and guaranteed analysis so I cannot put the product in the Instant Review Generator. I note that there is only one size, 12kg and that the price is £55. That is rather pricey but of course cold pressed food usually needs to be given in smaller quantities. I found that this was the big problem with it. I gave slightly under the 1% of body weight because at the time I was trying to keep the weight of two of the dogs in check. The quantity was minuscule and the poor things had it polished off in a nano second, especially as there was nothing to crunch - they just swallowed the nuggets. It used to really bother me.
Good work spotting this product Seaweed - as Dottie says, it is quite unique. I haven’t been able to find much information online but I have just sent an email to doghealth.co.uk asking for more information. We’ll see what they come back with.
Good news! I had a look as I hadn’t noticed this one on the directory. Ideally I would feed this as an occasional meal or as treats. I find it a bit frustrating that all the cold pressed foods come in minimum quantities of 5kg. Since they often have a 6 month shelf life, it is a bit too much for me. Perhaps if they take off more I can find somebody local to split one with.
I spotted the link on their Facebook page this morning. I seems that the company are doing well. The product looks good and reviews well on the Dog Food Directory.
It is good to see another cold pressed product but such a shame that there is no UK manufacturing base. Seems to me that cold pressed dog food is set to become very popular in the future.
I agree with Tinyplanets though - I too was very tempted but I do not want to buy 5kg in case it doesn’t suit them. Bearing in mind that dogs need less of it anyway because of the density, it lasts a long time and might expire before it is all used up. I used to have this problem with Gentle. I really think that they should produce 2kg bags. If they had had this size I would probably have ordered a bag.
I have contacted Guru regarding smaller bags. Lisa Clarke, kindly replied “We are looking to produce a smaller bag over the next coming months. Once we receive them, we will place a note on our website”. Lisa cannot give a date but they will be coming soon. Lisa also went on to say that Guru has an eight month shelf life and free samples are available should anybody wish to try. I have to say Guru (Lisa) responded to my query in very good time which is always a good sign.
Thank you very much for doing that. I will try to remember to keep a watch on the website for the smaller bags. I like cold pressed food for my dogs and am very tempted by this one.
Re Guru : Been keeping an eye on related internet content re their food with interest. Certainly there seem to be some efforts being made to get the brand out there. Currently I cant see a grain free option. As mentioned elsewhere that there are other cold-pressed foods out there that per/kg seemingly cost less (aware of the age old claims in selling products that many sellers justify price as being relative to quality). Good to see another new food though.
Re “Healthy Dog - Wild Boar” : Saw this online a week or so ago. it’s good to see another cold-pressed on the market. Also good to see another cold-pressed with a food source other than chicken (nothing wrong with same but some feeders prefer other meat sources).Great to see its grain & white potato free & uses sweet potato. (I feed grain free, low carb white potato free diet for specific reasons I may elaborate on at some time within another post). Although their site lists various ingredients I havent seen a full percentage composition breakdown. Their site has a page with ingerdient and analysis listings for two other cold-pressed products which can be seen by clicking here however that does not give percentile breakdown of composition (for those other two foods) there isn’t any info there re the wild boar food.
I note that the sourced wild boar are claimed a better food source than penn reared pigs, however, this did make me wonder what the food sources the wild boar are eating ( I fully accept we often know very little re food chain in food for feeding humans as well as animals/pets but the term forage perhaps caused me to wonder re this).
I am increasingly interested to learn more re this food & other cold-pressed foods.
I would also like to have better understanding of percentages of carbs in cold-pressed foods.
Oh and re shelf life of cold-pressed foods - I may be wrong but on back of a trusted to me source I was caused to believe shelf lives may vary depending on the binding agent ingredient used. (& crucially also appropriate storeage conditions).
Great thread re a very interesting & evolving area of the dog food market.
I have a young cavalier King Charles and I’m looking to change his food and OMG is it confusing! I haven’t quite got my head around feeding RAW yet, may do that at a later date, so in the meantime I was looking to change his current Burns kibble to a cold pressed grain/chicken free one, which doesn’t leave a lot to choose from
While trawling the Internet I spotted a brand called ‘WildInside’ which does cold pressed
Has anyone purchased this as I can’t see any reviews anywhere ATM
Sorry - I should have given you the link but I was in a rush so here it is. It contains duck but no chicken, the primary meat source being beef. Tinyplanets has used this product for her dog so knows a bit about it. There are no UK factories that make cold pressed food at the moment. I only know of two and that is the Markus Muhle one in Germany and I believe there is one in the Netherlands but not 100% sure.
A most unusual product as it contains wild boar meat. Also it is grain free, the carb source being sweet potato (no white potato). This is significantly different to some of the other cold pressed products which tend to have brown rice in them. I’d like to know more about it - who makes it and where it is manufactured. Would also like to see the review on here - will put it on the Facebook page as David might see it there and put it in the computer.
